Posts Tagged ‘Ethnic Cleansing’
when these are the kinds of things they are saying?
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=25828
• Antonio Villiaragosa “For those of the race, everything, for those outside the race, nothing.” President UCLA Chapter of MEChA student arm of La Raza Jose Angel Gutierrez, President of La Raza: “Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes…”
• Jose Angel Gutierrez, President of La Raza “We have an aging white America. They are dying. We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him.”
• Jose Angel Gutierrez, President of La Raza “We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we’re a new Mestizo nation.”
Mario Obeldo, former head of MALDEF illegal alien invasion ”California is going to be a Hispanic state," said Mario Obeldo, former head of MALDEF. "Anyone who does not like it should leave."
• Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter: "The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled — opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power."
La Raza is preparing to receive 5 million dollars of our tax money.
Thomas Paine: “He who dares not offend cannot be honest.”
The use of our tax money for the support of illegal immigrants should be like with the driver licenses when the government asks if we want to be an organ donor or not. The tax forms should include a clause that asks; do you want to support illegal immigration or not?
We should have a word on supporting or not people that are not citizens and are not paying state and/or federal taxes.
Let me make this clear, I support *legal* immigration, because legal immigrants start to pay all kind of taxes as soon as they set the very first foot in this country.
And, our forefathers were NOT illegal immigrants, no one can violate not-existing laws.
The US troops have taken a beating ….sectarian violence (more like a civil war) A puppet regime in Iraq – but not a puppet American regime but an Iranian one carrying out blatant ethnic cleansing of Sunni’s – Wow has Bush done the best job ever of ending his pPresidency with the death of the US as a super power ….
Can we finally admit outloud that the US has lost in Iraq that it has hardened it’s enemies and made the posibility of a nuclear attack (dirty or otherwise) on US soil go from an improbable posibility to a matter of time?
We will soon be able to blame Bush for the ultimate destruction of his own nation?
What mismanagement – Bush the last of the Ceasars
Yes we can.
The Iraqi police are totally infiltrated by the Shiite death squads that are performing the genocidal ethnic cleansing.
We are training the police so we are effectively providing training and material support to the very terrorists that we are supposedly fighting.
If you are an atheist, a materialist, a pantheist, or a naturalist, try to answer the following 11 questions:
"If all of life is meaningless, and ultimately absurd , why bother to march straight forward, why stand in the queue as though life as a whole makes sense?"
If everyone completely passes out of existence when they die, what ultimate meaning has life? Even if a man’s life is important because of his influence on others or by his effect on the course of history, of what ultimate significance is that if there is no immortality and all other lives, events, and even history itself is ultimately meaningless?
Suppose the universe had never existed. Apart form God, what ultimate difference would that make?
In a universe without God or immortality, how is mankind ultimately different from a swarm of mosquitoes or a barnyard of pigs?
What viable basis exists for justice or law if man is nothing but a sophisticated, programmed machine?
Why does research, discovery, diplomacy, art, music, sacrifice, compassion, feelings of love, or affectionate and caring relationships mean anything if it all ultimately comes to naught anyway?
Without absolute morals, what ultimate difference is there between Saddam Hussein and Billy Graham?
If there is no immortality, why shouldn’t all things be permitted?
If morality is only a relative social construct, on what basis could or should anyone ever move to interfere with cultures that practice apartheid, female circumcision, cannibalism, or ethnic cleansing?
If there is no God, on what basis is there any meaning or hope for fairness, comfort, or better times?
Without a personal Creator-God, how are you anything other than the coincidental, purposeless miscarriage of nature, spinning round and round on a lonely planet in the blackness of space for just a little while before you and all memory of your futile, pointless, meaningless life finally blinks out forever in the endless darkness?
1. So are you still beating your wife? Why are you assuming we think life is meaningless and absurd?
2. Life is meaningful while it’s being lived. Doesn’t mean much to me to think that the whole purpose of my life is to worship some egomaniac in the sky.
3. Doesn’t. Why does it have to?
4. Intelligence. At least for some of us.
5. Still beating your wife?
6. Those are the things that make life meaningful.
7. Is God moral? How many people did he kill in the bible? I’ll stick to my own set of morals, thank you very much. People are born with an innate sense of right and wrong. Even if they’ve never heard of and kind of God.
8. See #7.
9. Every person is born with basic human rights.
10.Death is not freedom. There’s no hope in death. There’s always hope in freedom.
11. You’re only that if you so choose. You can make a difference here in life, here on earth, if you so choose.
(This speech was originally delivered in Durban, South Africa by Rabbi Y D Weiss)
"May our words be pleasing to the Creator and cause His Great Name to be sanctified.
Assalaam Aleikhum:
The world stands aghast as the atrocities being committed by the Zionist regime in Gaza, becomes known in ever greater and shocking detail.
Mere words are insufficient to express the pain that all mankind feels at the plight of the Gaza and Palestinian people.
For over one hundred years, they have been subject to a carefully conceived plan, to drive them from their homes and their land.
Throughout their history, the Zionists have resorted to intimidation, war, ethnic cleansing and state—sponsored terrorism to achieve their goals.
This is, has been and continues to be, the criminal agenda of the Zionist movement. But among this movement’s greatest crimes, is that it has claimed to carry out these nefarious actions in the name of holiness, in the name of the Almighty, in the name of Judaism and the Jewish people !!
This is a wicked and monstrous lie !!
It is a desecration of our religion !!
Judaism forbids and rejects Zionism and the existence of the State of “Israel”. We have been expressly commanded by the Almighty that we are forbidden to have our own sovereignty in this heavenly decreed exile, we are also forbidden to rebel against any nation. Torah believing Jews, under the leadership of the most esteemed rabbis of the 20th century have always opposed and fought against Zionism and ultimately the State of “Israel”.
Unfortunately in recent years the Zionists have succeed in seducing and co—opting members of the religious community and some rabbis into support of not allowing the return of the rightful owners, the Palestinian people, to their land, by fear mongering, by appealing to their worst fears, that there is a religious conflict and that the Arabs always have had an ingrained hate for the Jews. Especially, they claim, that because of the many years of the existence of the State of “Israel”, if the Palestinians where to return to their land, they would massacre the Jews, may the Almighty protect us.
Anyone familiar with the ploys and techniques of the Zionist State is aware of this fact.
Before the advent of Zionism, Muslims and Christian, Arabs and Jews, lived peacefully together in the Holy Land, as in all the Muslim lands, — Ask your grandparents! — They remember those peaceful days! And in fact it is here the opportune time to thank all the Muslim countries for their extraordinary friendship, hospitality and safe haven that they have provided to the Jewish people throughout the ages!
The Zionists rely on the Bible, the Torah, for their imaginary right to ethnically cleanse the Palestinian people and to subjugate them. This is a pathetic joke! The Zionists have always been heretics and rejected all the fundamental tenets of our faith, and yet they have the nerve, the arrogance, the audacity, the chutzpa, to pretend to base their behavior on our holy Torah.
We know what our holy writings and our great rabbis have taught us — that we are forbidden to subjugate or oppress anyone or to desecrate the holiness of the Holy Land with paths of violence, ethnic cleansing, discrimination and military power. Our religion teaches justice. It teaches peace. It teaches compassion. In fact, the greatest and ultimate hope and prayer of the Jewish people is, that when the Messiah comes that then “Nation shall no longer lift up sword against nation, and they will make war no more.” All nations will serve God together in peace.
To the governments of the world, it is not through your support of the Zionist regime — the State of “Israel”, that the Jewish people are being helped! On the contrary, this tragic historical mistake has led to the killing of Arabs and Jews alike. The governments of the great powers, by supporting the State of “Israel” are not only harming the Palestinian people but they are also unwittingly contributing to the growth of hostility towards Jews worldwide!
To our Jewish brethren, we beg! Do not be intimidated by ruthless Zionist bullying and violence!! — Proclaim loudly and clearly your outrage, pain and sympathy for the people of Gaza and that those who show contempt for the Torah, the teachings of our rabbis, and disregard the ethical and moral basics of our faith, have no right to speak on behalf of the Jewish People or Judaism!
We must tell the world that self rule, sovereignty and ALL the rights of the Palestinian people, must be restored throughout historic Palestine! This is a requirement of Jewish ethics and values! Jewish justice demands the return of the Palestinian refugees to their homes, towns, villages and cities throughout Palestine! Tell the world, loudly and clearly, that you support Palestinian statehood over the ENTIRE Holy Land —— not despite your Jewish identity, but because of it.
To our Islamic brethren – let us speak up for the peop
anne s – Rabbi Weiss is Jewish…not Muslim
Pepper – you misread the question. I asked for you opinion on a speech…not copied and pasted rhetoric.
Rabbi Weiss you have my respect, i always salute to people who has guts, brain for speaking up the truth.
Very true..
I’m not suggesting that we should all go out and start burning history books.Knowing history is harmless, even useful.
What I’m suggesting is that many of the world’s social problems are caused by an overt attachment to history or by identifying oneself with a particular history, even if it has nothing to do with you.Think about it.
Many of the world’s social problems have historical causes.Racism is a direct descendant of European colonial might and the slave trade.Islamic jihad was a nascent idea until the crusades came along.Till then they were forging an empire, not trying to destroy an opposing faith.Islam spread through conversions, not force.Same with many other social problems the world over from ethnic cleansing to a lot of(not all, but most) religious intolerance.
Most people don’t bother to think about this, but they IDENTIFY with it.It’s like when a white man tells a black that he’s only fit to be a slave.
What I’m suggesting is that if people stopped caring about their history(or that of their family,community,country,etc), if they just treated it as a statement of fact that might have a lesson to impart here and there, then many of these problems would disappear.
By history I mean all kinds of history (social, cultural, political, economic,etc.).We can still learn history, but we needn’t identify with it.
And yes, this means not being proud of your heritage, your freedom struggle, etc.We need to stop living in/through/with the past and focus on our common future, regardless of historical differences.Do u agree?
I’ve labeled this as "False Pride". Thinking of yourself better than someone else due to circumstances over which you had no choice or control.
Someone saying "I’m proud of my nationality" is False Pride. They did nothing to accomplish this. It was due to the geographic location of their birth or the heritage of their parents. How can you take pride in that.
My step-father was a member of a minority group of which "Pride" was a rallying cry for change. He used to get angry at the statement of Pride, saying a man should be proud of standing on his own 2 feet and the knowledge he acquires, not for something that he had no hand in bringing about.
If you are an atheist, a materialist, a pantheist, or a naturalist, try to answer the following 11 questions:
"If all of life is meaningless, and ultimately absurd , why bother to march straight forward, why stand in the queue as though life as a whole makes sense?" —Francis Schaeffer, The God Who Is There
If everyone completely passes out of existence when they die, what ultimate meaning has life? Even if a man’s life is important because of his influence on others or by his effect on the course of history, of what ultimate significance is that if there is no immortality and all other lives, events, and even history itself is ultimately meaningless?
Suppose the universe had never existed. Apart form God, what ultimate difference would that make?
In a universe without God or immortality, how is mankind ultimately different from a swarm of mosquitoes or a barnyard of pigs?
What viable basis exists for justice or law if man is nothing but a sophisticated, programmed machine?
Why does research, discovery, diplomacy, art, music, sacrifice, compassion, feelings of love, or affectionate and caring relationships mean anything if it all ultimately comes to naught anyway?
Without absolute morals, what ultimate difference is there between Saddam Hussein and Billy Graham?
If there is no immortality, why shouldn’t all things be permitted?(Dostoyevsky)
If morality is only a relative social construct, on what basis could or should anyone ever move to interfere with cultures that practice apartheid, female circumcision, cannibalism, or ethnic cleansing?
If there is no God, on what basis is there any meaning or hope for fairness, comfort, or better times?
Without a personal Creator-God, how are you anything other than the coincidental, purposeless miscarriage of nature, spinning round and round on a lonely planet in the blackness of space for just a little while before you and all memory of your futile, pointless, meaningless life finally blinks out forever in the endless darkness?
Let me turn your questions around to you –
1. Why do you need a father figure to give your life meaning and purpose and direction?
2. Why do you need the promise of a reward and the threat of a punishment to force you to do good and avoid wrong?
A
America would be less diverse if those laws were not used. Some could even argue that miscegenation could be used as a form of genocide(of any people). Was the prevention of ethnic cleansing the ultimate goal of the Anti-miscegenation laws?
yup, diversity killing this country
I’m not suggesting that we should all go out and start burning history books.Knowing history is harmless, even useful.
What I’m suggesting is that many of the world’s social problems are caused by an overt attachment to history or by identifying oneself with a particular history, even if it has nothing to do with you.Think about it.
Many of the world’s social problems have historical causes.Racism is a direct descendant of European colonial might and the slave trade.Islamic jihad was a nascent idea until the crusades came along.Till then they were forging an empire, not trying to destroy an opposing faith.Islam spread through conversions, not force.Same with many other social problems the world over from ethnic cleansing to a lot of(not all, but most) religious intolerance.
Most people don’t bother to think about this, but they IDENTIFY with it.It’s like when a white man tells a black that he’s only fit to be a slave.
What I’m suggesting is that if people stopped caring about their history(or that of their family,community,country,etc), if they just treated it as a statement of fact that might have a lesson to impart here and there, then many of these problems would disappear.
By history I mean all kinds of history (social, cultural, political, economic,etc.).We can still learn history, but we needn’t identify with it.
And yes, this means not being proud of your heritage, your freedom struggle, etc.We need to stop living in/through/with the past and focus on our common future, regardless of historical differences.Do u agree?
Someone famous once stated, "If you don’t learn from the past, you are doomed to live it again".
Here’s another quote from Napoleon Bonaparte: "History is a set of lies agreed upon".
No, I do not agree with you for the above reasons. History is written from the point of view of the dominant group therefore it is not all that objective b/c the minority view has not been incorporated into its construction.
Even if a man’s life is important because of his influence on others or by his effect on the course of history, of what ultimate significance is that if there is no immortality and all other lives, events, and even history itself is ultimately meaningless?
If morality is only a relative social construct, on what basis could or should anyone ever move to interfere with cultures that practice apartheid, female circumcision, cannibalism, or ethnic cleansing?
So why would you waste your time trying to make something out of nothing and get death over with?
If it’s just a blank state of mind, then it doesn’t matter does it?
There is no "right" or "wrong". There is only "practical" and "counterproductive". The ability of human beings to perceive themselves and appreciate their own existence seems to create its own "meaning", but it can only be practically "fulfilled" at a species level. (I die, WE live.) As sentient beings, we need a general sense of satisfaction with life, so efforts to promote that can aid the species as a whole. The "meaning" of existence would seem to be fostering the continuation and development of intelligent life, by exploring and making the universe more comprehensible, by nurturing individual members of the species, or even just reproducing to replenish the stock in a responsible way. Life ends for everyone, but it is certainly more pleasant and full of potential than it was a few generations ago. We may feel a debt to previous generations that we can redeem by making the world a little better for future generations (assuming we can effectively determine what "better" means).
